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#CMN12: Day 2

#CMN12: Day 2

Another day of notes from the Church & Media Network Conference 2012

Storified by Dr Bex Lewis · Wed, Sep 26 2012 13:52:11

Church and Media Network : The Church and Media ConferenceCMN is a bridge between the church and the media. We help the media and the church understand each other. We offer help to media producti…
Thank you @andrewgraystone & his team for great #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@emmsy found it http://bible.cc/genesis/37-19.htm #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@emmsy @SUScotland me too with @bigbible … I most certainly do not have all the answers – give others a voice #dreamer?Digital Fingerprint
@emmsy @StoryChicago now that look’s interesting … Oh, and don’t forget mentioned #cnmac12 – particular theme ‘story’ this yearDigital Fingerprint
RT @emmsy: Interesting to hear so much talk of curation at #cmn12 this week. // learning from historians you think? [@ww2poster]Digital Fingerprint
If you missed what outgoing BBC chief operating officer Caroline Thomson said, you can read about it here: http://drakene.ws/SPGkb2 #CMN12Gavin Drake
Caroline Thomson’s new triptych to replace "inform, educated, entertain" for the BBC: "Creative, collaborative, connected" #cmn12Tim Levell
#cmn12 I LOVE looking for ways to ‘serendipity’ … Ears pricked up at that… Quoting Phillipians as basis of BBC values…Digital Fingerprint
@wareisjoe @russbravo I love the big screen effect… Especially for films…Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 creative, collaborative & connected is Caroline Thomson personal mantra…Digital Fingerprint
@russbravo @wareisjoe haven’t done a lot with ITV player. 4OD not bad… Neither as embedded in my TV so I naturally watch more BBC #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@digitalfprint @wareisjoe ps – I love it … I bought wifi TV so I could watch most programmes on iplayer…Digital Fingerprint
RT @wareisjoe: Amazing stat: Last year #BBC’s iplayer streamed 2 billion programmes. #cmn12 // do you think smoothly? #bufferingDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 enjoying these stats, but I work hugely with visuals – would love to see a few…Digital Fingerprint
Very lucky to have access to media we can trust. During Rwanda genocide, one radio station’s propaganda helped fuel the killing. #cmn12russ bravo
@wareisjoe wonder how many see the back of a badge? Unless it’s one of those swinging ones… #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#BBC boss Caroline Thompson says on the back of every staff members badge reads: ‘Trust is the foundation of the BBC. We are honest’ #cmn12Joe Ware
@russbravo agree … We get to hear from a much wider range of voices … Tho can also be bigger peer pressure? #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 interview with @garretkeogh re Being Human from early last year … http://digital-fingerprint.co.uk/2011/05/interview-with-garretkeogh-earlier-tonight-re-bbcbeinghuman/ real-time TV/TwitterDigital Fingerprint
Technology has helped us resocialise the media. You can share TV with your friends. Twitter has reenergised QT. #carolinethompson #cmn12russ bravo
BBC may be huge but it needs to know what it stands for … And live out those values… #cmn12.Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 this talk has just summarised what I anecdotally thought was what had happened with TV viewing/with Twitter…Digital Fingerprint
RT @RevMartinPoole: #cmn12 I’ll save "I’m a Christian, get me out of church" for channel 4! // YouTube pitch?Digital Fingerprint
Generation Inspired – Friday edition of The One Show: 3 min segment taking stories of young people already doing inspiring stuff #cmn12russ bravo
RT @bigdaddywhale: looks like i may be free to go to #cnmac12 after all! #complexbusylife // sweetDigital Fingerprint
RT @C4LPT: 4 days left to vote for the Top 100 Tools for Learning 2012 http://c4lpt.co.uk/top-100-tools-for-learning-2011/voting-2012/Digital Fingerprint
@ChurchGuides @NatChurchTrust great 😉 … note hashtag #Cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 pitches need to focus more on ‘narrative’ – where is beginning/middle/end? Where are the possible ‘wow’ factor?Digital Fingerprint
Hove #SocialMediaSurgery 6-8pm Wed 26 Sept @hovekitchen http://socialmediasurgery.com/surgeries/hove helping local charity and community groups use the web #bhsmsClem
"i’m getting more bored as you talk." Encouragement (?) during pitching in front of an audience #cmn12Sara Guy
goldfish bowl = good practice for pressure pitching #Cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/ahO0EMxeDigital Fingerprint
#Cmn12 an idea of Hatch, Match & Despatch … As the first in the goldfish bowlDigital Fingerprint
#Cmn12 enthusiasm can help, but it’s not the starting point. Be informed about what’s already out there… Be concise pitches.Digital Fingerprint
Jumpers getting a bad name this conference season. Twitter notes anti jumper sentiment for #LibDems and Christians #cmn12Gillian Oliver
#cmn12 @bishopangaelos says children are important but they’re not taken seriously…they are the futureC Noble-McLean
#Cmn12 Worked with http://www.arabworldmedia.org/ for a week last year … Got a much better insight into some of these issues…Digital Fingerprint
Is it a problem that we always go to the same leaders for quotes? We create faith leaders, not the communities themselves?#cmc12Alex Strangwayes
Dear friends,This week’s Minne Elak topic is about judging other people; at 9.30PM till 11PM Beirut timing…. http://fb.me/1TtnJt6bVMinne Elak
Smartphones seen as the new Kalashnikovs – power of social sharing that can change nations #cmn12 #ritaelmounayerruss bravo
Rita Elmounayer, SAT-7 exec director – "biggest problem in Middle East today is hopelessness" #cmn12russ bravo
Rita Elmounayer #cmn12 Sat-7 http://pic.twitter.com/byvtuJ8FDigital Fingerprint
@charmainenm I thought I’d said glum LOLDigital Fingerprint
@charmainenm @bishopangaelos you look like yr avatar too 😉 v glam as alwaysDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 ensure that you get your facts right … Rather than allowing a deadline to push for unsubstantiated anecdotesDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 call people to question, make people accountable – but don’t call a religion to account for behaviour of few…Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 but it will take time for people to learn what is GOOD content, and what doesn’t need to be reacted to.Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 ‘the video’ – if it had been ignored, it wouldn’t have had the coverage // like 50 Shades!!Digital Fingerprint
Tweets in Egypt pre-Mubarak 2,600 per day. Now 260,000 per day – massive growth of digital engagement. Coptic Bishop Angaelos #cmn12Tim Levell
#cmn12 post ‘arab spring’ – growth of 20% of social media use. People less scared of ‘knock on door’. Hear so many voices = good.Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 in the Middle East – everything is very personal & very emotional … So media takes one view & represents it // as does western?Digital Fingerprint
@charmainenm @bishopangaelos he definitely looks like his avatar..Digital Fingerprint
Bishop Angaelos #cmn12 z Coptic Orthodox Church http://pic.twitter.com/ao6PSUHIDigital Fingerprint
great intro from @annamdrew #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/aVGGxhymDigital Fingerprint
Interesting that future-gazing for the church becomes a personality catwalk #cmn12pmphillips
#cmn12 @NotVicarBot hopefully not – time to reflect is important, but lots of faith/media people, rather than ChristiansDigital Fingerprint

@BigChurchDayOut no problemo ;-)Digital Fingerprint

@noahsapprentice yep … Can’t remember if it’s via regular twitter or the app I’m using – I should share instructions…Digital Fingerprint
Sugra Ahmed shares today how difficult Muslims find it when a few extremists colour everyone’s views on Islam. #cmn12Vicky Beeching
Twitter CEO reveals plans for interactive tweets and content curration: TweetTweets are set to get a whole lot m… http://bit.ly/SupdReQubesocial
There is an appetite for faith leaders to speak out on public life and issues, but they rarely do it – Prof Linda Woodhead #cmn12russ bravo
RT @gdeichen @timbald Nah. The media looks for a story. Extremists and fundamentalists are always going to get more airtime. #cmn12Tim Finch
@vickybeeching I wonder if any of it relates to personality… I think through things through talking them through.. twitter = my mouth…Digital Fingerprint
@maggidawn it’s totally old hat – even Prensky has debunked it … But people still use as an excuse ‘I’m too old’ …Digital Fingerprint
Couldn’t resist popping this card on here from @FourEwe – seemed topical for #cmn12 http://lockerz.com/s/247564273russ bravo
#cmn12 Archbishop of Canterbury perceived favourably by British Muslims says Sughra Ahmedgethinrussell-jones
. @RuthieGledhill says it’s terrible that ‘anti-gay’ view seen as defining a ‘proper Christian’. #amentothat #cmn12Joe Ware
sughra Ahmed #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/B5BiYr2xDigital Fingerprint
@maggidawn @russbravo in the shared keynote we did at #cnmac10 … Talked about finding blogging voice… Can also find twitter voice #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
Perhaps humanists in charge of how Christians get portrayed in the media? #cmn12 (discussion on how Christians seen by humanists in society)Tim Finch
#cmn12 @andrewcopson "When people speak positively about Christians these are informed by personal contact rather than media representation"nickpollard
#cmn12 some of these perceptions are why we need so many well-informed voices in the digital space..Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 @timbald – more interesting that acknowledges that is same for any group ..Digital Fingerprint
@lizziejbird Church and Media Network ConferenceDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 condescending/patronising – privileging a particular morality… I have to say most of these not unexpected!!Digital Fingerprint
Christians = complainers, want to be seen as victims, anti-everything – what do they stand FOR?, the bigot .. all gained from media #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
interesting to see responses from a range of humanists to word ‘Christians’ #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/1JfyylTCDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 how has digital media changed the types of debates in the religious sphere .. Obvious = Occupy fed by digital #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
Gledhill lists religious celebs to watch in the coming year. I wonder will they or committed, local believers make most difference? #cmn12Norman Ivison
@BigChurchDayOut think you may be looking at personalised trends? Def not trending in UK and prob wouldn’t expect it to ;-(Digital Fingerprint
@danny_webster no such thing as a perfect tool ;-)Digital Fingerprint
@danny_webster That looks a bit bald … There was a wry smile on my face as I wrote it.. Want to encourage listen to MORE voicesDigital Fingerprint
You can, however, @danny_webster just choose to hear particular voices by muting hashtag or follow/defollow. #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@danny_webster am thinking partic from ‘being there’ perspective.. But even outside I get a better overview -we all hear diff things #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
Times’ @RuthieGledhill predicts that the main issue for the CofE will move away from sexuality and focus on faith in public square #cmn12Evangelical Alliance
@danny_webster @vickybeeching tweets too short tho 😉 don’t want to just hear from an over-curated elite – range of voices great #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@danny_webster @vickybeeching totally disagree… Allows others to join in. Can pick best of content for a blog post later, or… #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@richardlittleda @ruthiegledhill just started… One way to ensure someone not picked for new ABC – media promotes! 1st woman bishop 2013?Digital Fingerprint
listening to @ruthiegledhill #cmn12 … just credited @jbnottage http://pic.twitter.com/MYMke8aHDigital Fingerprint
Will be crediting Cowley slug scourge and Keble undergrad @jbnottage with brilliant research with upcoming speech #cmn12Ruth Gledhill
#cmn12 as people disillusioned with religion = turn to politics, etc … And vice versa.Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 re-ritualisation – new ‘traditions’ emerging … E.g. ‘celebration’ cakes at funerals…Digital Fingerprint
People are disassociating themselves with religion. Doesn’t mean they don’t have a faith. "Religion has changed profoundly since 80s" #cmn12russ bravo
#cmn12 the world religion has become a toxic category…Linda Woodhead-Christian but not religious – rings truerosie harper
Speaking tmrrw at ‘church & media’ conf on perception of Xians by non-religious. So, crowdsourcing – yr first thoughts hearing ‘Christians’?Andrew Copson
#cmn12 what do people mean when they self-define as ‘no religion’, or even as ‘Christian’. Word religion = toxic.Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 the census results will shortly be out … Religion question only asked for 2nd time – a v politicised questionDigital Fingerprint
RT @digitalfprint: #cmn12 Linda Woodhead http://www.lancs.ac.uk/fass/faculty/profiles/Linda-Woodhead > Runs Religion and Society research programme with £15m of fundingruss bravo
Linda Woodhead #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/kJZ4YhRWDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 Linda Woodhead http://www.lancs.ac.uk/fass/faculty/profiles/Linda-WoodheadDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 hope @NatChurchTrust & @churchguides get a chance to chat at this conference…Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 a great looking rest of day ahead… http://lockerz.com/s/247551485Digital Fingerprint
TheMediaNet Academy gets back to work at #cmn12 . Great to work worth enthusiastic young people.Wayne Clarke
MT: Salford Uni academic @bethhewitt1: Facebook is dying, Twitter is the new alternative for under 16s #cmn12 <<< so truepmphillips
The word television may disappear… Less gap between the multi platforms #cmn12Dave Hill
#cmn12 we have just been told that in new series postman pat will tweetNat Churches Trust
I think @bethhewitt1 is someone I’d like to talk to #cmn12 …Digital Fingerprint
“@serenasnoad: sigh. please don’t demonise social networks. They are just tools to facilitate communication. #baby #bathwater” #cmn12pmphillips
Keep up to speed with where our children are at. They’re concerned with real issues. Newsround proves that children like news. #cmn12Dave Hill
RT @pmphillips CODEC International Symposium on Values in Social Media at Durham Uni this Friday http://dur.ac.uk/codec/about/e #cmn12 InterestingJacquie Hughes
@boudledidge another moral panic?Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 – many programmes succeed or fail on the back of twitter reaction – certainly it’s how unexpected cult followings developrosie harper
RT @tobygmscott: @annamdrew and @pmphillips hard at work at #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/pbucKlqL // nice picDigital Fingerprint
@digitalfprint @maggidawn True – and much involves responding to what others are saying. It’s called conversation #cmn12russ bravo
@pmphillips @digitalfprint My father (81) has just got an iPad, never too old to learn the tech #cmn12Graham Crosbie
#cmn12 definitely – parents have to take responsibility … On
/off button is not boring, it’s an important part of media literacy!!Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 I’m over 50 and also have nothing much to say, doesn’t stop me thoughgethinrussell-jones
.. @russbravo for you or for others? Lol #cmn12. Engaging enables you to ‘find your voice’ (HT @maggidawn)Digital Fingerprint
he’s only 11 years older than me @rosieswiss #cmn12 – older than him can do it. Too old to produce kids TV?Digital Fingerprint
For those interested here is vid of baby trying to ‘iPad’ a magazine #cmn12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXV-yaFmQNk&feature=youtube_gdata_playerJoe Ware
#cmn12 age IS NOT an excuse – Been listening to the digital native debate too much … We can all learn the tech…Digital Fingerprint
great question @RuthieGledhill – Twitter conversations round TV programmes have made them interesting again #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
although @pmphillips I’m hearing a lot of fears now are not new … #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
Just worried about a rumbling digital-phobia/techno-phobia – has anyone read Amped? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Amped-Novel-Daniel-H-Wilson/dp/0385535155 #cmn12 #thefutureisnowpmphillips
#cmn12 always about the story/narrative … And then how do you bring that to life?Digital Fingerprint
Do children identify more with characters or theme? Research suggests it’s characters, rather than gender-targeted themes #cmn12russ bravo
@RevMartinPoole thanks – found it on Amazon for 1p #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
In a room full of people who had to *learn* to make their smartphones work, I’m not worried about kids gaining early exposure to tech #cmn12Toby Scott
Alison Kimberly – gender differences in TV … is it all about role models? #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/YtvofsOuDigital Fingerprint
Please take care if you’re in and around Durham today as there are lots of road closures and #floodsThis is Durham
On topic of trolls – a v sobering account of someone’s social media troll experience & who it turned out to be: http://www.traynorseye.com/2012/09/meeting-troll.html #cmn12Vicky Beeching
allow children to be children … #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
Amazing vid of 1-yr-old child playing Angry Birds on an iPad just shown #cmn12. V happy baby. Should we be worried?Ruth Gledhill
37% don’t have safety control software #cmn12 1/8 5-7 year old’s using internet on own… numbers rise with age…Digital Fingerprint
one to che.ck out for the book I”ve been commissioned to write… #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/dVUHtUyODigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 How much can creative TV people focus on the story and characters, and how much on the merchandising?russ bravo
looks interesting – 3/4 of children had no unsupervised play outside this summer #cmn12 #weather? http://pic.twitter.com/fGdCBNRnDigital Fingerprint
@srbishop @vickybeeching the spam bots are pretty obvious – are reporting them for spam.., #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@russbravo oh .. I can see them on phone & iPad – so 2 different apps …Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 if everyone could block/report at least one of the spambots… ?!Digital Fingerprint
Phil Chalk from http://Factorytm.com now talking about their children’s animation work #cmn12Tim Finch
#cmn12 looks like we’ve been afflicted by a backwards ‘compliment’ – spam/porn bots seems to have joined the hashtagDigital Fingerprint
Phil Chalk … #cmn12 … from Factory http://pic.twitter.com/PF3pnV6IDigital Fingerprint
‘Why Don’t You just switch off the television and do something less boring instead?’ because WDY was good and worth watching! #cmn12Gavin Drake
#cmn12 that was it … Does/should BBC Children seek to produce good citizens?Digital Fingerprint
Joe Godwin BBC #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/Kq6PJIu8Digital Fingerprint
@richardlittleda don’t think any of us ever do 😉 I hope… #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@Partakers_Dave @tobygmscott by who – should we challenge them?Digital Fingerprint
@joanieg1205 maybe access to one is seen as enough? I may have to google a nerf gun…Digital Fingerprint
Children want to be made to think about the world they live in. They are naturally curious and want to have their brains stretched #cmn12russ bravo
#cmn12 huge numbers watch CBBC with all that choice … Deliberate value choices made underpinning it all..Digital Fingerprint
what do children want? #cmn12 – lots of tech … http://pic.twitter.com/jAsq2g6ZDigital Fingerprint
equipment ownership for 5-16 year olds #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/zHloN2nCDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 34 children’s channels, plus they watch a lot of prime time, plus lots of online eg Moshi MonstersDigital Fingerprint
My in-depth knowledge of Horrible Histories and Justin is really paying off in this morning’s session at #cmn12Toby Scott
@Partakers_Dave but you’s a little.older than me :-)Digital Fingerprint
"@dajbelshaw: w00p! RT @cristinacost: here it is – PhD thesis Abstract http://bit.ly/OZG1JJ"Digital Fingerprint
more chocolate (& jelly beans) #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/Lr7F4ZWcDigital Fingerprint
ha @georgeluke favourite programme Rastamouse gets a mention #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/kAn6IkwPDigital Fingerprint
. @gethinrj @nickpollard similar debates to digital … Constant moral panics with every new technology #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 parents have always worried about their children’s leisure habits says Joe Godwin. Development of the @nickpollard themegethinrussell-jones
BBC children history #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/NzRqfKqXDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 I wasn’t allowed TV until I was about 18 … brethren background…Digital Fingerprint
#joegodwin Need for historical perspective – children do get the TV they deserve: entertaining and stimulating #cmn12russ bravo
@charmainenm @andywalton he’s not … Hello Andy…Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 TV – you can watch as much TV as you like so long as you write an essay on each programme … How to stop kids watching so much tvDigital Fingerprint
great line up… starting with Joe Godwin – Director BBC Children’s #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/yCjvOWdFDigital Fingerprint
RT @gethinrj: #cmn12 free fairtrade chocs doled out, too soon to munch? // Christmas!!!Digital Fingerprint
Panel gathering at #cmn12 to discuss children’s media http://pic.twitter.com/93pD7Fvgnickpollard

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#CMN12: Day 1

#CMN12 Day 1

A great first day at the Church and Media Network Conference, held at MediaCityUK, Salford Quays. As usual, this will mostly pull from my tweets, and Retweets, from the day (aka, my notes).

Storified by Dr Bex Lewis · Mon, Sep 24 2012 15:35:25

Church and Media Network : The Church and Media ConferenceCMN is a bridge between the church and the media. We help the media and the church understand each other. We offer help to media producti…
Thank you so much to Geoffrey Clarke, or URC, who gave me a lift back to Burnage… no need to negotiate the evening trams! #cmn12Dr Bex Lewis
Stewart Henderson #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/DGRmeIweDr Bex Lewis
conference dinner at #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/YaDIBbePDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 ethics are never imposed but need to come from the base … Digital media is here to stay – we must engageDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 wealth of common voices that haven’t been heard before need to be brought to table says @pmphillipsDigital Fingerprint
#CMN12 Twitter has changed journalist job in digital space – no longer can just write to deadline, have to engage much more frequentlyDigital Fingerprint
CODEC International Symposium on Values in Social Media at Durham Uni this Friday http://www.dur.ac.uk/codec/about/events/ #cmn12pmphillips
RT @catherinecronin: Feedback which engages, promotes learning – great post & video by @drdjwalker: http://ow.ly/dWX9eDigital Fingerprint
Has journalism ever been free of spin? Goes right back to ancient rhetoric – perhaps never was a golden age of pre-digital truth #cmn12pmphillips
Jaquie Hughes: Who can you trust in a chaotic digital world? #cmn12 – hope there is going to be a positive view too…pmphillips
RT @nickpollard: Jacquie Hughes at #cmn12 "with citizen journalism speed trumps verification"Digital Fingerprint
@Partakers_Dave lots of people need a lot of help with it… With encouragement ;-)Digital Fingerprint
@noahsapprentice at least get people thinking about that .. Can’t happen in a day if unclear …Digital Fingerprint
@noahsapprentice it’s part of what I try to do in workshops … Understand who you are/what you stand for & can translate in any form #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 @JacandJon – good quality journalism leads to a more informed populace. // can live with that but do people get space for quality?Digital Fingerprint
In Harry pics debate at #cmn12 good point made that no need for pics to be on front page. Could have been inside.Shows it was sales led moveJoe Ware
#cmn12 listen to http://www.brunel.ac.uk/arts/journalism/staff/jacquie-hughes – define your values & then hang your hat on them in ANY media. amenDigital Fingerprint
@Gillmck3 thanks for speed networking session … Look forward to chatting to you more #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@digitalfprint the photo it also appeared in the @churchtimes when it reprinted Sun front page for media review. #CMN12Gavin Drake
#cmn12 news from Twitter – if you work on who you follow – more balanced than just reading one newspaper..Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 what decision processes do editors have to go through before publishing in a newspaper?Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 my question was was it appropriate for the picture to be here on conference table … Did I need to see it for point to be made?Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 quite a lot of people comparing Kate/Harry pics… For some reason people still insist on calling her K Middleton!!Digital Fingerprint
@dajbelshaw LOL … You making up for it now though ya think…Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 complicated questions related to whether the Prince Harry naked pictures should have been published or not?Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 always good debate generated by @andrewgraystone – best speakers open up questions to think through own responses..Digital Fingerprint
@Kristine3108 @georgeluke @theMediaNet much much harder to build a following – often need a ‘lucky break’, piggyback on ‘known’ brands…Digital Fingerprint
@Kristine3108 guess proof will be in the pudding at end of year… ;-)Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 had deliberately not looked at the naked pic of Prince Harry … Bums… Can be seen!Digital Fingerprint
@Kristine3108 @georgeluke @theMediaNet a lot of newspaper based blogs get a lot of traffic – as well as others.. #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@Kristine3108 found out their starting point, going to their 3 x. Year meetings & shortly will be webinars…Digital Fingerprint
Re Twitter self defining : surely reading same paper daily could be construed to be the same? Small set of journos speaking daily..? #cmn12Tim Finch
@JamesPrescott77 @russbravo // many on Twitter at last election thought would be a runway victory for LibDems … Wrong news source #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@vickybeeching @ChrisBryantMP "the danger of newspapers is you only get the news from the paper you choose to read." #cmn12Steve Lawson
Interesting point @chrisbryantmp – Twitter too much about self. Mix up followers. Follow others not just those who agree w/ you. #cmn12pmphillips
@russbravo don’t forget he suggested follow those who are outside that ‘world’ #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@vickybeeching @ChrisBryantMP don’t forget he offered a (partial?) solution too 😉 #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 that is v true – @chrisbryantMp – Twitter can offer a self-perpetuating view – make deliberate effort to follow ‘think differently’Digital Fingerprint
@timbald @Kristine3108 @ruthmcgarahan oh dear… I read that editing as ‘between sheets’ then remembered had seen broadsheets!!Digital Fingerprint
@Kristine3108 am currently working on JISC project trying to get some senior staff more #digilit … #slowlyslowlyDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 #richpeppiat – page 3 = archaic. Problem with all tabloids .. Archaic content.. Not just about ‘free news, online.Digital Fingerprint
@Kristine3108 what was the academic topic? I go to learning tech confs – we tweeted so much we trended in UK for 2 daysDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 good question @theoselizabeth ;-)Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 sex drives a lot of development of the Internet… Read more at http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sex-Bombs-Burgers-Created-Technology/dp/1742376347/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348499156&sr=8-1Digital Fingerprint
Really appreciating the refreshing frankness of @richpeppiatt and @chrisbryantmp talking about media at #cmn12Tony Lobl
#cmn12 @chrisbryantMp telling us what it’s like to have your phone hacked – wondering which of his friends had leaked storiesDigital Fingerprint
Former @daily_star hack Richard Peppiatt questions why celeb gossip is described as #journalism at #cmn12 Spot on.Joe Ware
Discussing the future of journalism in regards to the Leveson Inquiry at The Church and Media Conference. Och! #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/eLYDyKdzLuke Haley
Evolve or die. There will always be a demand, but methods, models and products will always change #richardpeppiatt #cmn12russ bravo
RT @mattbuck_hack: .@digitalfprint @domponsford has written a good piece about problems with it –> http://ow.ly/dWGziDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 @ChrisBryantMP uses Twitter to get his news – look at 4-5 different sources to get a good idea of a story …Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 mentioning the £2 month levy for news on websites… Not sure fair that pre-existing news outlets get underwritten?Digital Fingerprint
Chris Bryant-we need to redefine ‘pu
blic interest’ if we are to improve journalism #cmn12theMediaNet
#cmn12 nice one @richpeppiat – let’s not have a race to the bottom – just because can write whatever on blogs … Not same 4 newspapersDigital Fingerprint
@Chrishallnewb I RT things – often to share voices & also sometimes I do a Storify of all my tweets/RTs … My notes taken #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@Chrishallnewb @jonacuff nothing to be guilty about … Love fact that Twitter different personality types come out, allow many voices..Digital Fingerprint
Chris Bryant MP thinks the Murdochs may end up in prison after investigations into media ethics is done and dusted. #cmn12 #hackingJoe Ware
Currently @AndrewGraystone = chairing questions to panel members @richpeppiatt & @ChrisBryantMP re: media ethics #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/cApfR42NVicky Beeching
RT @Digitalnun: Judging by the #cmn12 twitterstream, those of us who aren’t there are missing some good talks. #sinofenvy // ;-)Digital Fingerprint
.. @russbravo why are lawyers paid so much is one of my big wonders… #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 after Leveson – should be ‘redress’, need more no win/no fee, gave Murdoch too much power … Says Chris BryantDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 need to talk about how live with the tools that exist – they ARE here … Every type of media has its up&downsides …Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 feels a bit like Chris Bryant ‘blaming’ media for increased prurience … Though also led to decreased judgemental ismDigital Fingerprint
RT @Chrishallnewb: Digital media means it is v hard to hide your past says Chris Bryant MP #cmn12 // accept the norm for all of usDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 may have to plug my phone in … Trying to work out what I’ve been doing to kill my battery // working on iPad!!Digital Fingerprint
@eChurchBlog know that feeling – waiting a new broadband connection – have a 3 wifi – sometimes works, but need something more stable!!Digital Fingerprint
Some journalists are first to accuse others of hypocrisy, yet maybe are unwilling to look at themselves. #cmn12 #chrisbryantMPruss bravo
@eChurchBlog hard times ;-(Digital Fingerprint
@eChurchBlog have you read any of the tweets – giving you any clue? #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 turning to Wikipedia for more information on Chris Bryant now speaking http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_BryantDigital Fingerprint
@CathButcher @giles_fraser Nah. CofE Comms has become keeping Giles off Rowan and everyone else’s back 🙂 Sorry cant be there. #cmn12Arun Arora
@richardlittleda @Giles_fraser @drbexl Both! Apostle Paul 1st broadcast then dialogued with interested parties while others listened #cmn12Peter Saunders
#cmn12 there’s a difference between telling the truth – legally or morally, and ‘not lying’Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 the Harry & Kate pictures – how can decisions of right/wrong be made based on geographical jurisdiction?Digital Fingerprint
The lies of a newspaper in London can get a guy’s head kicked in in Bradford #richardpeppiatt #cmn12theMediaNet
@richardlittleda @Giles_Fraser helps if people understand ‘rules of conversation’? Eg understanding how best to comms"?Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 great introduction to Rich Peppiatt – http://rich-peppiatt.com/ – tabloids – how do we treat truth in the press?Digital Fingerprint
@richardlittleda @Giles_fraser @drbexl #cmn12 – I’d love to think it was conversation – how do we ensure people know who to listen toDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 the Levenson enquiry is but the start of changes … If we care about the media we need to ensure our voices are heard…Digital Fingerprint
Almost total silence of faith communities on media issues. Why? Media is struggling to find a new ethic and what to build it on. #cmn12russ bravo
@theMediaNet @RevTonyMiles @giles_fraser Gospel is offensive, but we have robbed it of its teeth in the name of contextualisation #cmn12Richard Littledale
Bishops are asked to live out proclamation of the gospel and be prophetic, not be kindly managers #cmn12 #gilesfraserruss bravo
@richardlittleda think is referring to ‘THE Church’ – not that I’m sure that what that is is clear… #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
RT @russbravo: Base of CofE is so diverse, there is almost nothing you can say that won’t upset someone. #gilesfraser #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
@vickybeeching part reason for @bigbible – big fundamentalist churches do social media well, let’s get wider range voices online #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 church has become over-beaurocratised … not recognisable from freedoms available in the gospelDigital Fingerprint
The world of the parish priest is often much bigger than the world of the media, with it’s short-termism and refusal to engage #cmn12russ bravo
#cmn12 hear hear – the media is NOT something that the church needs to be protected from, but to be engaged with …Digital Fingerprint
"You will often be misrepresented, but unless we take that risk, we die in a different way – we die from irrelevance." @giles_fraser #cmn12Emma Boyd
#cmn12 "Job of so many comms depts in church has become to keep media off our back rather than engage with it positively" Giles Frasernickpollard
#cmn12 Was reminded of this book that I have read cover to cover (a true accolade ;-)) – http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Journey-Towards-Relevance-Transforming/dp/0972927689/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348493478&sr=8-1Digital Fingerprint
RT @networkea1: #cmn12 "forced into irrelevance by a lack of voice" Giles Fraser // church needs to learn to speak up … Preferably well..Digital Fingerprint
@vickybeeching Engaging with people is the church’s business, and if it takes the media to do it, then we should not fear. #cmn12Richard Littledale
Church of England invented the ‘Big Tent’ philosophy. Bring as many people together as possible. Hence bishops’ reticence to speak #cmn12russ bravo
@vickybeeching of course Clare Rayner is someone to aspire to 😉 #cmn12 we need to do it as well as poss, but not be put off engagingDigital Fingerprint
@vickybeeching think u know what I think? #cmn12 Clare Rayner once said ‘if it’s worth doing, it’s worth doing’ …Digital Fingerprint
Do you think the Church should be keen to engage with media, or shy away from it to avoid misrepresentation? What do u think Tweeple? #cmn12Vicky Beeching
#cmn12 very impressed at lack of notes by @giles_fraser … Clearly passionate about what he talking about…Digital Fingerprint
Hope everyone has a great time at #cmn12. I went to #cmn10 in the academy. Excellent training from all the team thereSam Pratt
#cmn12 it’s ok to talk about religion, politics & sex at dinner parties – because they’re topics people are passionate about?Digital Fingerprint
English Civil War brutalised the nation. Religion that came after it was to be mistrusted if it was passionate. #cmn12russ bravo
@danny_webster I’ll probably Storify at end of day ;-)Digital Fingerprint
Hiding behind spin doctors and lawyers was partly why #occupy was such a PR disaster for St Paul’s says Giles Fraser at #cmn12Joe Ware
“The Church is so afraid of media, so defensive, as if it has a target on its back all the time. Why?” asks @giles_fraser #cmn12Vicky Beeching
"The fear of the media can distort the way church works and deliberates" says @giles_fraser #cmn12Jennifer Walters
@Hels_Bels_1 excellent ;-)Digital Fingerprint
@Digitalnun hey bigsis, we’ll try and keep you in the loop for #cmn12 ;-)Dr Bex Lewis
@danny_webster you not planning to enjoy at a distance 😉 #cmn12Digital Fingerprint
Bishops can’t say anything interesting to the media because
they’re afraid – and maybe they’re right to be so #gilesfraser #cmn12russ bravo
#cmn12 work it out what it is you believe/what you stand for, and then work out how best to transmit that message .. amen!Digital Fingerprint
#cmn12 interesting @giles_fraser found himself ‘leading the peasant’s revolt’ at St Paul’s because of the way of the media is representedDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 be great to network whilst being part of the academy. I have a passion for people, podcast/ radio, digital media & Children’s workHelen Nicholls
@richardlittleda @Giles_fraser @drbexl Both! Apostle Paul 1st broadcast then dialogued with interested parties while others listened #cmn12Peter Saunders
@richardlittleda @Giles_fraser @drbexl #cmn12 – I’d love to think it was conversation – how do we ensure people know who to listen toDigital Fingerprint
#cmn12 @Giles_fraser @drbexl Is broadcast or conversation a more biblical model for gospel sharing, I wonder?Richard Littledale
@drbexl I keep wanting to reach over and eat some but too far away on my table!Helen Nicholls
@drbexl Don’t eat the black ones Doc! Liquorice has to be bad for you. It tastes so much like medicine. :-)Ron Willoughby
@drbexl Alas….earwax @richardlittledaAlastair McCollum
@richardlittleda I knew exactly what you talking about … No wish for a bogey flavoured bean here!!!Dr Bex Lewis
@drbexl Be careful – they might be "Bertie Botts every flavour beans" #obscurepotterrelatedtweetRichard Littledale
@drbexl helps maintain your focusC Noble-McLean
I have a bit of an addiction for jelly beans #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/Qeg2nEZoDr Bex Lewis
first formal session of #cmn12 .. liking the table layout rather than rows… http://pic.twitter.com/Y5s5mKxKDigital Fingerprint
@WomaninLondon @drbexl no as I’m on my way there!C Noble-McLean
@charmainenm @drbexl Couldn’t you have said that rather that tweet it? Ha ha! #CMN12Maria Rodrigues-Toth
@drbexl just behind you Bex!C Noble-McLean
I’m at The Lowry w/ @drbexl http://4sq.com/NMkNmSHelen Nicholls
I got chocolate #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/QnhQCDZjDr Bex Lewis
found a new toy already #cmn12 http://pic.twitter.com/qcetzHxyDigital Fingerprint
In Salford’s Media City for Church & Media conference. Weather flash: there’s a SERIOUS amount of rain here. #cmn12Gill McKinnon
@wood5y To work fairly it would *have* to include hyperlocal & bloggers – anyone contributing to News – can’t see that! @paulmorriss @drbexlPaul Webster
RT @wood5y: @watfordgap @paulmorriss @drbexl does any business/profession have an automatic right to survival? Thought not. :)Dr Bex Lewis
RT @paulmorriss: @watfordgap @wood5y @drbexl I like the first comment "A £2-a-month levy on automobiles could save our horse and cart bu …Dr Bex Lewis
RT @wood5y: A broadband levy to fund journalism? Now that’s a very clever idea http://gu.com/p/3aj9y/tw (@drbexl) <would community news get too?Paul Webster
RT @TechZader: A broadband levy to fund journalism? Now that’s a very clever idea http://bit.ly/Ux6Ony via @GuardianTechDigital Fingerprint